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	<description>&#039;Enough is Enough&#039;! Speak up NOW to stop this cruelty...</description>
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		<title>By: Cathrine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cathrine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2010 08:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To the part with the law, I can tell that Denmark, as one of the first, if not the first country, has become a law against beating horses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To the part with the law, I can tell that Denmark, as one of the first, if not the first country, has become a law against beating horses.</p>
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		<title>By: BEVERLEY</title>
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		<dc:creator>BEVERLEY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 22:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gentlemen,  Of course, this is not my first experience with Klaus...both through his books, email correspondence, etc.

Again, while listening to the interview, I think that it&#039;s all about mutual respect between horse and rider.   Respect, alignment with the nature of the horse, not necessarily in alignment with the way that humans view respect.  One has to only observe the horse in a herd, and then it&#039;s possible to see &quot;respect&quot; throughout the &quot;community.&quot;

Regarding Rollkur--If we were asked to move, with our heads tied down toward our waist, what a sight that would be...not to mention the pain and cruelty.  Even worse would be the embarrassment and humiliation.

My horse, who came to me over 2 years ago with unkonwn issues, including fear, has come around beautifully, and will follow me around as well as move out ahead on a long 30 ft line, out on rural trails--showing confidence.   She will nose-touch new items found along the way, and then expect a hearty pat for her bravery.    She now demonstrates such regard for anyone who handles her, (under my scrutiny, of course) and yet, would not allow anyone to even touch her face just two years ago.   

I&#039;ve learned how sensitive she is to any form of human body (movement) language...wow!  what an awakening to me, even though my other two lovely Arabian mares were very self-assured and didn&#039;t require me to seek to &quot;understand&quot; them this much.   (No rollkur was ever in their lives either)  But, here we began with a mare who could not talk and tell what she had been subjected to for 12 years of her life.
  
All that Klaus has shown in his utube clips, books, etc., has served to awaken me to how horses react to soooooo MUCH MORE than hands, and feet.They are all-knowing...our body language and our thoughts as well!

What a path of learning, that continues on!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gentlemen,  Of course, this is not my first experience with Klaus&#8230;both through his books, email correspondence, etc.</p>
<p>Again, while listening to the interview, I think that it&#8217;s all about mutual respect between horse and rider.   Respect, alignment with the nature of the horse, not necessarily in alignment with the way that humans view respect.  One has to only observe the horse in a herd, and then it&#8217;s possible to see &#8220;respect&#8221; throughout the &#8220;community.&#8221;</p>
<p>Regarding Rollkur&#8211;If we were asked to move, with our heads tied down toward our waist, what a sight that would be&#8230;not to mention the pain and cruelty.  Even worse would be the embarrassment and humiliation.</p>
<p>My horse, who came to me over 2 years ago with unkonwn issues, including fear, has come around beautifully, and will follow me around as well as move out ahead on a long 30 ft line, out on rural trails&#8211;showing confidence.   She will nose-touch new items found along the way, and then expect a hearty pat for her bravery.    She now demonstrates such regard for anyone who handles her, (under my scrutiny, of course) and yet, would not allow anyone to even touch her face just two years ago.   </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve learned how sensitive she is to any form of human body (movement) language&#8230;wow!  what an awakening to me, even though my other two lovely Arabian mares were very self-assured and didn&#8217;t require me to seek to &#8220;understand&#8221; them this much.   (No rollkur was ever in their lives either)  But, here we began with a mare who could not talk and tell what she had been subjected to for 12 years of her life.</p>
<p>All that Klaus has shown in his utube clips, books, etc., has served to awaken me to how horses react to soooooo MUCH MORE than hands, and feet.They are all-knowing&#8230;our body language and our thoughts as well!</p>
<p>What a path of learning, that continues on!</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 20:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Humility is taking the hand of God and respecting the heart and spirit of the horse, qualities evident in this talk from a gifted and humane being.
Interesting views about some horses needing the rein. There is evidence to suggest in some feilds that horses genetically produced carry forward their historical training in cellular memory, perhaps this might explain a predisposition to cetain training methods and a physical &#039;belief&#039; that the rein affords a connection to something intrinsically deep within the horse. Some people can &#039;feel&#039; this in a horse and this separates the wheat from the chaff in terms of true horsemen. If the horse truelly needs the rein we can then justifiably accept the horse on the other end. When it is us in need of the rein we must go deeper within ourselves and rediscover our own lost humility and spirit, this is where we will meet the horse in its kingdom of truth, free from fear, punishment and pain, and in doing so we will connect with a sense of freedom our ego&#039;s do not want us to see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Humility is taking the hand of God and respecting the heart and spirit of the horse, qualities evident in this talk from a gifted and humane being.<br />
Interesting views about some horses needing the rein. There is evidence to suggest in some feilds that horses genetically produced carry forward their historical training in cellular memory, perhaps this might explain a predisposition to cetain training methods and a physical &#8216;belief&#8217; that the rein affords a connection to something intrinsically deep within the horse. Some people can &#8216;feel&#8217; this in a horse and this separates the wheat from the chaff in terms of true horsemen. If the horse truelly needs the rein we can then justifiably accept the horse on the other end. When it is us in need of the rein we must go deeper within ourselves and rediscover our own lost humility and spirit, this is where we will meet the horse in its kingdom of truth, free from fear, punishment and pain, and in doing so we will connect with a sense of freedom our ego&#8217;s do not want us to see.</p>
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		<title>By: popa</title>
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		<dc:creator>popa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 18:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank you klaus ...that help people to understand horses on aaother level.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you klaus &#8230;that help people to understand horses on aaother level.</p>
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		<title>By: Candace Costis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Candace Costis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 21:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HI  For Chris S.  There is a huge number of international trainers and riders including the USDF who again and again call for the health and happiness of the horse as a partner - even in competition.  As in any discipline you have to search carefully for a trainer and instructor who does not us pain as a tool of domination.  Good Luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HI  For Chris S.  There is a huge number of international trainers and riders including the USDF who again and again call for the health and happiness of the horse as a partner &#8211; even in competition.  As in any discipline you have to search carefully for a trainer and instructor who does not us pain as a tool of domination.  Good Luck.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Sakoutis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Sakoutis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 04:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was also posted elsewhere:

Years ago, if you would have asked me what my goal in life was to be I would have answered that more than anything I wanted to take the proceeds of the sale of a home and use that money to buy a great horse capable of going international. I was willing to donate all my retirement time and hundreds of thousands of dollars to that goal. But now, when I see what it means to be at that level and by what is winning in the ring, I am appalled. I no longer want to show, want to spend money on what I see as an abomination in the dressage ring. 

Rolkur and the forced submissiveness is NOTHING to aspire to. So now I take my lessons at home with my instructor and my never-will-be-FEI horse and I am happy. Most importantly, my horse is happy too. You can tell by his appearance when I am training. I look forward to once again being able to clinic with my personal hero Walter Zettl and to learning dressage as an ART and not as forced manipulation of a helpless animal. 

In the world of dressage I am just another nobody, so no FEI organization is going to care what I do. But one day (with any luck) they will learn to understand that the top level of riders only make up a small portion of the dressage population, and that the sport is basically financed by hundreds of thousands(or millions) of nobodies just like me. And as I will walk away, so may many many others. 

As a current member of USEF and USDF I am waiting to see what action they take and to see if they have the guts to support the antiRolkur movement, and if they don&#039;t, I&#039;ll probably walk away from them as well. 

Yes I know the current FEI elite and their Blue Tongues will say I don&#039;t know what I&#039;m talking about, and that only they have the gifted golden fingers to train that way. Well, that&#039;s fine. They can have their glory until such time as some animal welfare group further humiliates them. Until such time as animal welfare concerns takes dressage right the heck out of the Olympics by popular disdain.

So I&#039;ve made a promise to myself and this is what this little dressage nobody who doesn&#039;t have the &quot;expertise&quot; to ride rolkur is going to do. I will carefully check every product I buy and any and every product endorsed by a Rolkurite I will not purchase. No books, boots, videos, shirts, bridles, saddles, gloves, underwear.......

I will loudly protest and shout from the rafters my disdain for the practice and I will not clinic with anyone who rides or advocates such riding practices as rolkur. I will join any grassroots movement which is against Rolkur whether it be by wearing a white baseball cap and if I were to attend an event where it is used I would not be against holding up a sign or other indication of my extreme negative feelings for the practice. I will take pictures and post on the internet, or videos if I&#039;m holding a video camera. I will join all blogs fighting the use of rolkur. 

I may be just a force of one, but there are many of me and together, we can make a difference.

When sponsors stop endorsing Rolkurites due to negative profit (or visa versa) and dressage interest or attendance decreases THEN maybe the organizations who state they support the welfare of the horse will care. WHEN IT HITS THEM IN THE POCKETBOOK. Obviously this whole welfare of the horse thing is right now, to them, an inconvenience. 

Princess Haya, are you reading?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was also posted elsewhere:</p>
<p>Years ago, if you would have asked me what my goal in life was to be I would have answered that more than anything I wanted to take the proceeds of the sale of a home and use that money to buy a great horse capable of going international. I was willing to donate all my retirement time and hundreds of thousands of dollars to that goal. But now, when I see what it means to be at that level and by what is winning in the ring, I am appalled. I no longer want to show, want to spend money on what I see as an abomination in the dressage ring. </p>
<p>Rolkur and the forced submissiveness is NOTHING to aspire to. So now I take my lessons at home with my instructor and my never-will-be-FEI horse and I am happy. Most importantly, my horse is happy too. You can tell by his appearance when I am training. I look forward to once again being able to clinic with my personal hero Walter Zettl and to learning dressage as an ART and not as forced manipulation of a helpless animal. </p>
<p>In the world of dressage I am just another nobody, so no FEI organization is going to care what I do. But one day (with any luck) they will learn to understand that the top level of riders only make up a small portion of the dressage population, and that the sport is basically financed by hundreds of thousands(or millions) of nobodies just like me. And as I will walk away, so may many many others. </p>
<p>As a current member of USEF and USDF I am waiting to see what action they take and to see if they have the guts to support the antiRolkur movement, and if they don&#8217;t, I&#8217;ll probably walk away from them as well. </p>
<p>Yes I know the current FEI elite and their Blue Tongues will say I don&#8217;t know what I&#8217;m talking about, and that only they have the gifted golden fingers to train that way. Well, that&#8217;s fine. They can have their glory until such time as some animal welfare group further humiliates them. Until such time as animal welfare concerns takes dressage right the heck out of the Olympics by popular disdain.</p>
<p>So I&#8217;ve made a promise to myself and this is what this little dressage nobody who doesn&#8217;t have the &#8220;expertise&#8221; to ride rolkur is going to do. I will carefully check every product I buy and any and every product endorsed by a Rolkurite I will not purchase. No books, boots, videos, shirts, bridles, saddles, gloves, underwear&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>I will loudly protest and shout from the rafters my disdain for the practice and I will not clinic with anyone who rides or advocates such riding practices as rolkur. I will join any grassroots movement which is against Rolkur whether it be by wearing a white baseball cap and if I were to attend an event where it is used I would not be against holding up a sign or other indication of my extreme negative feelings for the practice. I will take pictures and post on the internet, or videos if I&#8217;m holding a video camera. I will join all blogs fighting the use of rolkur. </p>
<p>I may be just a force of one, but there are many of me and together, we can make a difference.</p>
<p>When sponsors stop endorsing Rolkurites due to negative profit (or visa versa) and dressage interest or attendance decreases THEN maybe the organizations who state they support the welfare of the horse will care. WHEN IT HITS THEM IN THE POCKETBOOK. Obviously this whole welfare of the horse thing is right now, to them, an inconvenience. </p>
<p>Princess Haya, are you reading?</p>
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		<title>By: Regina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Regina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Klaus.  This was very enlightening to me.  I would like to know if this interview is available in text form.  I would love to be able to share with others who are not on internet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Klaus.  This was very enlightening to me.  I would like to know if this interview is available in text form.  I would love to be able to share with others who are not on internet.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne Quaye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne Quaye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 01:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Klaus for agreeing to talk to the public.  It has been interesting hearing your point of view.  I must agree that horses are all different shapes and therefore different abilities and ways of going.  I have noticed that some horses do seem to need/want a bit.  I however can not get my head round having to use a double bridle.  In the wrong hands they are lethal. I realize that even the mildest bit can do damage as can pressure from hackamores.  The FEI ought to realize that the general public see double bridles being used, they see overbent horses and then go home and torture their own thinking they are teaching it dressage.  Hardly surprising that there are so many depressed horses out there. Any people at the top of any sport must know that they have the public watching them and copying them.  The people who make the rules should be more aware of them. I can&#039;t say I agree at all with turning a horse in to a machine.  There is a difference between a good mannered horse and a zombie.

I would love to see how Klaus works with ill treated horses and turns them around. He does not sound like a monster but a realist.  I was not impressed with what I seen but it was interesting to hear the reason for riding in such a way. I am not sure I agree with it. Hats off to you for being brave enough to talk to us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Klaus for agreeing to talk to the public.  It has been interesting hearing your point of view.  I must agree that horses are all different shapes and therefore different abilities and ways of going.  I have noticed that some horses do seem to need/want a bit.  I however can not get my head round having to use a double bridle.  In the wrong hands they are lethal. I realize that even the mildest bit can do damage as can pressure from hackamores.  The FEI ought to realize that the general public see double bridles being used, they see overbent horses and then go home and torture their own thinking they are teaching it dressage.  Hardly surprising that there are so many depressed horses out there. Any people at the top of any sport must know that they have the public watching them and copying them.  The people who make the rules should be more aware of them. I can&#8217;t say I agree at all with turning a horse in to a machine.  There is a difference between a good mannered horse and a zombie.</p>
<p>I would love to see how Klaus works with ill treated horses and turns them around. He does not sound like a monster but a realist.  I was not impressed with what I seen but it was interesting to hear the reason for riding in such a way. I am not sure I agree with it. Hats off to you for being brave enough to talk to us.</p>
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		<title>By: Juliet Jessop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juliet Jessop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been &quot;standing still&quot; with my horses for some time now and am really appreciating more and more the importance of relationship over performance. 

This has been so much easier to work my way through by reading/listening to/working with some really sound people (eg reading Linda Kohanov&#039;s books; working with Angela Dunning here in the UK) and it is similarly so good to be able to listen to Klaus share his experience.

What I have been able to let go, has made space for something much richer.

Thanks for making this teleseminar possible Mark and thanks to Klaus for his time. Your efforts do not go unnoticed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been &#8220;standing still&#8221; with my horses for some time now and am really appreciating more and more the importance of relationship over performance. </p>
<p>This has been so much easier to work my way through by reading/listening to/working with some really sound people (eg reading Linda Kohanov&#8217;s books; working with Angela Dunning here in the UK) and it is similarly so good to be able to listen to Klaus share his experience.</p>
<p>What I have been able to let go, has made space for something much richer.</p>
<p>Thanks for making this teleseminar possible Mark and thanks to Klaus for his time. Your efforts do not go unnoticed.</p>
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		<title>By: Dorothy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dorothy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank you Klaus, some really interesting insights into human psychology, and why we behave as we do! it explains alot. I am also interested in your ideas about some horses needing the support of reins of some sort. Food for thought!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you Klaus, some really interesting insights into human psychology, and why we behave as we do! it explains alot. I am also interested in your ideas about some horses needing the support of reins of some sort. Food for thought!</p>
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